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		<title>THIRD CIRCUIT COURT OF APPEALS UPHOLDS TERRY SEARCH</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 12:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In <em><a href="http://www.ca3.uscourts.gov/opinarch/092245p.pdf">United States v. Johnson</a></em> the Third Circuit Court of Appeals upheld the <em><a href="http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=us&#038;vol=392&#038;invol=1">Terry</a></em> search of Anthony Johnson and affirmed his conviction for possession of a weapon by a convicted felon.</p>
<p>Tammy Anderson a resident of Harrisburg, Pennsylvania called 911.  She told them that she saw a white taxicab pull up next to a van across the street from her residence.  She said she saw two men get out of the taxicab and she heard a shot.  It was too dark to get a decent description of the men but she saw the cab and it had a green light on top.  She told the operator her name and telephone number.  She described the lot across the street. She told the operator when the the taxicab left and the direction it was going.</p>
<p>Officer John Doll arrived at the lot across the street from Anderson&#8217;s house before Anderson got off the phone with the 911 operator but after the taxicab left.  He quickly found the taxicab and developed eye contact.  However he waited until other officers arrived to stop the vehicle.</p>
<p>For the safety of the officers they took out their guns and ordered Anthony Johnson and the driver of the taxicab, Kenneth Cobb, out of the taxicab and handcuffed them.  A revolver with two spent shells was found in the back seat near where Johnson had been sitting.  </p>
<p>In analyzing a Terry stop the courts follow a two step process,  First they look at the initial stop and then they look at whether steps following the stop were limited to discovering a weapon.</p>
<p>The court found that Anderson provided sufficient information to allow Officer Doll to stop the taxicab and that the searches were appropriate since Anderson&#8217;s claim that she heard a gun shot was credible and the safety of the officers demanded the search.</p>
<p>However, I would like to concentrate for a moment on Kenneth Cobb.  Apparently he was not arrested.  But he was ordered out of the vehicle, handcuffed and searched.  When Officer Doll and his colleagues pulled over the taxicab they had a reasonable suspicion that someone in the vehicle had shot a gun.  Both Johnson and Cobb had prison records so it was presumably illegal for either one to be in possession of a gun.  But Terry says:</p>
<blockquote><p>At the time he seized petitioner and searched him for weapons, Officer McFadden had reasonable grounds to believe that petitioner was armed and dangerous, and it was necessary for the protection of himself and others to take swift measures to discover the true facts and neutralize the threat of harm if it materialized.</p></blockquote>
<p>Anderson only heard one gun. Officer Doll only had a reasonable suspicion that one of the men was &#8220;armed and dangerous.&#8221;  So it is equally possible that either Johnson or Cobb had the gun.  Thus does that give Officer Doll the right to search both men or neither man?</p>
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		<title>THIRD CIRCUIT:  MAN NOT SEIZED DESPITE TWO OFFICERS WITH GUNS DRAWN</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 12:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Third Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that for Fourth Amendment purposes a man is not seized despite the fact that two police officers are pointing guns at him when he does not freeze in response to the officers with the guns. Two Wilmington, Delaware police officers received a report that a person had a [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Third Circuit Court of Appeals <a href="http://www.ca3.uscourts.gov/opinarch/082543p.pdf">ruled</a> that for Fourth Amendment purposes a man is not seized despite the fact that two police officers are pointing guns at him when he does not freeze in response to the officers with the guns. </p>
<p>Two Wilmington, Delaware police officers received a report that a person had a gun at 1009 West Seventh Street.  They drove by the house and saw five people on the front porch.  They got out of the marked vehicle and told the five people to raise their hands for officer safety.  Four of them raised their hands.  Christopher Waterman kept his hands in his pockets.  The officers drew their guns.  Waterman removed one of his hands and put it behind him.  He unsuccessfully attempted to open the door to the house with the hand that was behind him.  Deborah Waters opened the door and came out of the house.  Waterman went into the house.  </p>
<p>The question before the Court was whether Waterman was seized at the time he went into the house.  The Fourth Amendment forbids illegal searches and seizures.  In order to arrest a person an officer must have probable cause to believe that a crime has been committed and that the person committed the crime.  A detention does not require probable cause.  Rather it only requires a reasonable suspicion that the person is involved in a crime.  In this case since the police only had an anonymous tip neither probable cause or a reasonable suspicion existed.  But since the Third Circuit held that neither a search or a seizure occurred it refused to suppress evidence found as a result of the incident on the porch.  It held that for a seizure to occur the officers must either physically seize the person or the person must submit to an assertion of authority.  While the drawing of the guns was an assertion of authority, Waterman did not submit to the authority and therefore there wasn&#8217;t a seizure subject to the Fourth Amendment.  </p>
<p>But in <em><a href="http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=us&#038;vol=446&#038;invol=544">United States v, Mendenhall</a> </em> the Supreme Court ruled that searches and seizures must be based on an objective basis.  In other words they can only be justified if the average person in the spot of the defendant would feel that they are seized and unable to leave.  I would maintain that the average person facing two officers both of whom have their guns drawn would not be crazy enough to leave even to enter the house through an open door.  If this is the case then Waterman was seized and any evidence discovered as a result of his entry into the house should be suppressed.  </p>
<p>In fact the Court stated in Mendenhall that</p>
<blockquote><p>We conclude that a person has been &#8220;seized&#8221; within the meaning of the Fourth Amendment only if, in view of all of the circumstances surrounding the incident, a reasonable person would have believed that he was not free to leave.   Examples of circumstances that might indicate a seizure, even where the person did not attempt to leave, would be the threatening presence of several officers, the display of a weapon by an officer, some physical touching of the person of the citizen, or the use of language or tone of voice indicating that compliance with the officer&#8217;s request might be compelled.</p></blockquote>
<p>While in this case Waterman went into the residence and the decision does not state what happened next I think we can bet he did not get very far.  We have the threatening presence of two officers with guns drawn insisting that Waterman put his hands above his head.  It would seem under an objective standard Waterman was seized.  And I bet when he went into the house the officers proved that he was seized by taking further steps that limited his ability to move. </p>
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